how long do paper logs burn

After all, that’s the method that people applied long before the paper shredder’s invention. Don't knock it until you are home with no heat no way to cook your food because a nor'easter took your power for a week... How do you suppose those people stay warm? Beneath one of the photos I wrote: "Step 4: Put the cover on. Place the paper log in a spot where it won’t ... it may take as little as three days or as long as two weeks for the log to dry out completely. But for now, let me help you see the actual problem. And have you noticed how often they seem out of touch with the real world? We don't as a general policy investigate the solvency of companies mentioned (how likely they are to go bust), but there is a risk any company can struggle and it's rarely made public until it's too late (see the. However I look forward to hearing your feedback when you try yours out. ~ It is near-impossible for me to effectively press the water from a correctly loaded brick with my hands. Wood heating - used as the main form of heating by less than 5% of households in Sydney - are estimated to cause 100 premature deaths every year - about 25% of all pollution-related deaths. It is much easier and cleaner than ash, and doesn't waste money like using hand cleanser. Never underestimate the warmth and efficiency of a paper brick made this way. In and out. Do not use colored Flame Fires for cooking. selvamani devendiran on February 22, 2017: what is the compression strength and durability of this bricks. It begins the pressing process above the level of the frame. Just pour the water off and press with your foot again until the brick has compressed into a firm and solid shape. I wish I could think of a way of using up the big pile of stuff I have accumulated from chipping branches with a small electric chipper. Audrey Surma from Virginia on September 21, 2013: Excellent instructions with clear explanations. We cleaned the forest of wood that would have just sat and rotted heated our home. Sit outside in the sunshine with a nice cup of a herbal tea and the newspaper spread on the table in front of you, read a page (both sides of course) and then when you've finished, scrunch it up and drop it beside you. Mine is about 5 years old now and still getting a good work out. I suspect you could have straightened the handles and tried again. :). :). No scratching, no harsh chemicals. Paper bricks are effective fire starters. Hmm ... interesting perspective. Take your time to perfect your technique. I'm getting the hang of making the paper bricks. Not sure if they sent you a different one or not ... but here's my thoughts on the likely explanation for the problem you had. So, thanks for your comment. :), I have a logmaker but never used it coz it hurt my hands but I will be using the LTM method from now on. Barb Johnson from Alaska's Kenai Peninsula on April 24, 2015: Great hub LongTimeMother! I'd hate to think the product was substandard. If your paper is not compressed enough, you need to add more paper! @ eugbug , a couple of points which you might find of practical use: Using ash to clean the stove glass can cause scratching of the surface if there is any grit present. It is so much easier! lol. Anyone with neighbours or is connected to the grid, should consider safer, more environmentally friendly way to heat their homes. Coffee Logs heating briquettes will burn for approximately an hour when used in closed appliances with well-managed air flow, such as multi-fuel stoves or wood burners. If your paper is not compressed enough, you need to add more paper!". KEEP LOGS OUT OF REACH OF PETS AND CHILDREN! How much does the Paper Brick Macker cost? You have saved me many a half-hour trying to scrape that tar off, like Woody is apparently doing. But there's been no RFS burn-off in my region in the ten years my family has been here. Perhaps you could contact your local newspaper office and ask them if they use soy-based inks. You don't need the paper to fall apart. This article gives my tips for keeping warm. Cross the bars over. Tip One: Know How to Really Build a Fire: While it may seem elementary — toss in some logs, some paper and a match – burning an efficient fire isn’t so simple. I'm not convinced warm water makes that much difference in the construction of the paper bricks, but it certainly helps when I have to put my hands into the water and retrieve the paper on a cold day. While we were sleeping, the bricks were at a safe but warm distance on the floor. This is much easier than any paper brick making directions I’ve seen before. As far as I know the RFS conducts hazard-reduction burns only in areas where bushfires are likely to threaten urban areas. Just do it. So what can you do to make your own paper bricks that will be ready to use within days instead of waiting for weeks as recommended? No kidding. I personally don't have the need to use newspaper bricks often, although I still use them at least a few times each season. You probably feel a bit like I do when people continually see my little Hub about using broken mozzy coils. I've taken a closer look at my trusty old newspaper brick maker and I loaded it with insufficient paper and put pressure on and managed to have a similar result to you. "We're way behind with the burning program," RFS Deputy Commissioner Rob Rogers told ABC Radio Sydney. How damp do they get? You shouldn't need wire baskets. They easily infiltrate back into your own home, as well as into those of all your neighbors. :) Thanks for your comment. For a tedious task like creating hand-made logs for a fire, I prefer the easier option. I have often considered getting one of these paper log maker things but could never believe that it would be a reasonable pay-off against the time spent preparing them. If you want to read the article, Woody, there's a link above. i wrap my logs ,when dry, in a sheet of paper as i add sawdust and bark chips to the logs ,like a xmas present with tape,it dose not take a minute ,and it keeps the log together and no mess from the sawdust. Fire keeps my family warm during winter. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on September 24, 2017: So tell me, AusAirqual, what efforts do you make to reduce pollution caused by your own home and lifestyle? But you and I, along with uncountable other level headed people, know that diverse circumstances require equally diverse solutions. My grandfather isn't around anymore to answer. The recipe could still use some tweaking, but it's a good start and a fun and easy project. If your paper falls apart, you've left it in the water too long. He or she can only think with a one-track mind. Your question suggests you're considering them for building which worries me. In the past I've had open fireplaces in some of my homes (where even burning wood caused potential problems with carbon monoxide poisoning), but now any smoke or gases are expelled out the top of the chimney. Yes, it would be wonderful if the world had no need for using any fuels of any type ... but that's not the world most of us live in. If all your junk mail is really shiny paper, the brick may split but our junk mail includes normal paper texture. Next time you drive past a power plant spewing gunk into the environment, past a train hauling coal or through beautiful countryside blighted by coal seam gas fracking, be happy that I live off the grid and use solar power for all my power needs except one little wood-burner stove. In addition heat pumps cause a lot less global warming, and don't damage our health. I reread this blog today. If you want one of your own, I've added an Amazon link. The 4 log maker was in stock, so I bought that, but you might want to update your link to the 4 in one while the other is out of stock. When it comes to burning newspaper bricks, I don't fear toxins. I believe life is too short to waste hours shredding paper and then wait days for the paper to soak before making something that will only be tossed in the fire and burned. If it was easy for you, there wasn't enough paper loaded. I was surprised when I first began developing this idea by the amount of paper required to adequately fill the frame. It's kind of like hardcore paper mache. The burns were conducted in the southern highlands and Central Coast on Sunday. They could be turned into bricks if I could come up with a way of binding the material together, possibly using clay. Look under the hedgerows, under trees, in the forest, in a pile of old rotting logs .... your own locality will have grown it's own resource. What you don't use can go in the compost pile. Much quicker and easier than chopping wood! Is there an guarantee, on the Paper Brick Macker? If you have a brick maker (or 'log maker' as the people at Amazon call it), here's the LTM way to use it. Their heat is intense, which means there is no delay in generating warmth, and the flame helps even large logs ignite. Her family uses solar and alternative power sources for lighting, cooking, animal fencing, etc. But they last about 10 mins. LT Mum, it looks like AusAirqual is thinking in absolutist terms. I hope you're not polluting the waterways with your sh*t. Hello AusAirqual. If not, alternate their position. See the little 'pegs' sticking out at the sides of the insert? LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on November 18, 2016: I don't think it is possible to post a photo in these comments, Jeannie. This article is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on September 21, 2013: Thanks for the vote up Eddy. Guaranteed. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on November 09, 2016: Jeannie, I hope you've mastered the art of using your newspaper brick maker. They will create more ash than wood. Can I burn paper logs in it? You had me worried for a while there. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on May 15, 2014: Hello W kitchen. I can get a redunant coalburner from my mother. Try both options ... using only one hand. Makes perfectly good sense to me. when i make them i keep them in the greenhouse until really dry,then i stack them in the celler where they go damp again? Surface may dry up but not the deeper parts. I tore the paper into little strips and soaked it longer than I believed was necessary, then packed it into the paper brick maker and struggled to push all the water out - gripping the handles and pushing down as hard as I could. When you burn something -- be it wood or paper bricks -- the particles in the pollution you produce are in the ultrafine size range. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on July 08, 2015: Hello Hendrika. You'll be pleasantly surprised how much warmth they generate. People like you and me are viewed as some kind of 'bad guy' because we have wood-burning stoves. We work hard and I remember helping my father in the woods bucking up tree limbs to take home to burn that the loggers left. Position the metal plate over the top of the wet paper. wonderful informative instructions we will definitely be having a go. :). Tks. Push each little bundle of paper in firmly and flatten it a little so that the other pieces overlap and interlock. After stepping on the cross bars, the cover will rest with the small silver bars tight on the black frame. They are made for burning. You'll have to trust me on this. Thanks LTM. I make newspaper bricks for burning in my fire to keep my home warm. TOPSHOP, MISS SELFRIDGE AND BURTON OWNER 'ON BRINK OF COLLAPSE' – WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW, 'I'M SELF-EMPLOYED BUT CONFUSED ABOUT WHETHER I CAN CLAIM THE THIRD GRANT' – UNSURE? ", Splat !! :). Let me know how you go if you decide to try it. Thanks for adding your hint here in the comments for others to read. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-14/smoke-across... And here's a link to a news report last year including photos of the Sydney Opera House blanketed in smoke during the 2016 bushfire hazard reduction burns. Modern, efficient heat pumps/heater air-condioners have superseded wood stoves and natural gas as the most cost-effective heating. :). Hold the base plate vertically and release the brick onto its side to rest on a flat surface. Tonight, they are burning brightly in the fire keeping us warm. Making paper logs Step 2 . There's no point pushing any harder. It begins the pressing process above the level of the frame. However they still contain solvents and other toxins to some extent, which is why newspapers should absolutely never be used to wrap foods or soak fat from fried foods (as is the case in some countries.) I'd like you to take a look at the photos under my subheading, "Step 3: How To Press Your Wet Newspaper Into A Brick.". You just need it to be wet and pliable. I just wish I had seen it back when I was burning wood! Okay, so maybe you have a pile of papers you read months ago ... just scrunch up each page and make a pile. "Dad, we don't use those these days. I was tricked by a few weeks of warm weather. To my mind, however, the greater warning is to avoid breaking your handles. Stick with me, MarleneB. The first thing most people will warn you about when making paper bricks with this type of brick maker is the danger of crushing your fingers. By wetting the paper it compresses 10 times better than dry paper so you get a long even burn from your finished paper logs. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on May 06, 2014: Hi jonnycomelately. If you leave the paper in for too long, it gets really soggy and starts to fall apart. Use one hand, hold the handle, and move each bar individually until you are confident you know how to cross the bars safely.. Use your FOOT - not your hands. Question: Is this a fire resistant paper brick? The thought of repeating the process to make my second paper brick was enough to make chopping wood seem very attractive. If there is a small area that has extra buildup that you can't move, then use your razor blade briefly. Bushfires and burn-offs do cause ill-health but the smoke quickly passes, so there's nothing like the damage to health from living next to a wood stove and being exposed to pollution for the entire winter. Question: Does the paper smell when you burn it? Other Reclaiming: Mortgage Fees, Council Tax etc, Pensions, Annuities & Retirement Planning, Report Holiday Deals, Bargains & Special Offers, Martin's Blogs & Appearances & MoneySavingExpert in the News. Thankfully, no other families will suffer from your pollution. I am telling you it is wasted effort. They are present in huge numbers but are mostly microscopic strands of mycelium. Eiddwen from Wales on September 21, 2013: How this brought back great memoires ;I'd forgotten all about making these bricks. Were you using a newspaper brick maker? What about you? They should know. To be honest, there's a lot of other environmental pollutants that cause me more grief on a global level ... but I respect your right to have your own fear and express your opinion. Once dry, the logs are ready to burn. I keep the glass front of the fireplace tightly shut at all times, and monitor the vents to make sure an appropriate amount of air intake keeps the fire burning 'hot'. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on September 22, 2013: Deb Hirt from Stillwater, OK on September 22, 2013: I cannot think of a better article on how to live better by your own means. It works. Regarding your big pile of wood chips, I use clay for building walls. :). I crumbled newspaper, wet it, overlapped it, put weight on it. I could really use wire baskets the same size as bricks to hold them intact during drying time. Easy as sticking it in a sink or bucket of water for a couple of seconds. Then when you pushed, you bent the handles. How long do they burn for? It is easy to release a small amount of paper to act as the 'lighting point' on these bricks as you lay them out to dry . Step 4: Put the cover on. My newspaper bricks dry quickly and effectively, but they obviously need a source of warmth to help them dry. Secondly, concerning your pile of wood chips and what to do with them. In summer I use cold water. :). Don't stress. You certainly have a cold climate. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on September 02, 2017: Hi Alan. Life holds unexpected twists and turns, cygnetbrown. If you are considering wood heat or would like to know how you can make your wood heat longer and as efficient as possible, here are a few tips. Of course you'd have to find somewhere for them to dry before you could use them, and I don't know what the result would be. This article gives my tips for keeping warm in an emergency when your home is without heat of any kind. Check out the photo below. I use my newspaper bricks in a wood burning stove, burning ‘hot’. It's totally un-commercial as far as I am concerned, but people all over the world have found it useful and that makes me feel really great! How Long does it take when you put the. Heavy duty hand cleanser ( the type used buy mechanics) also contains a mild abrasive and is great for removing tar and grease. You can make these paper bricks at any time during the year, but obviously they will dry faster in summer. See how the paper has been pushed into the shapes of the holes in the cover? Yet if each of us is thoughtful enough to carefully adjust something in our lives that will produce less waste, less pollution; be less selfish, less judgemental; more innovative, more considerate of the needs of others.....then we just might help to heal the planet before it spews us out in terminal sickness. I failed to emphasise that inner part of the wood chip pile needs to remain moist for fungi to thrive. After that point, you'll be using your foot - with a strong boot or shoe on it - so your fingers are in no danger. No need to obsess about how you do it. If you rely on fire to keep you warm during winter, I encourage you to grab yourself a brick-maker and start generating your own fuel for your fire with newspaper bricks. I don't see the logic in suggesting anyone who efficiently burns wood for heating and cooking (particularly with a water-jacket in their combustion stove) should replace their existing appliances and become reliant on electricity and/or natural gas. I wrote this article for the benefit of the many people who need to make newspaper bricks because they can't afford (or can't always access) wood for their wood-burner stoves. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on March 19, 2014: Hello stuff4kids. All burning -- be it wood or paper -- creates high levels of particles and toxins, but when you burn something that has been bleached, such as paper, it creates much higher levels of highly carcinogenic and endocrine-disrupting dioxins and other toxic compounds that are persistent environmental pollutants. Awesome and up! You are making newspaper logs, not papier mache so you don't need to make paper mush. Here's how I make compressed paper bricks, quickly and easily, to use in my wood-burning stove. Thanks for writing to me so I could clear this up. :). Content is for informational or entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for personal counsel or professional advice in business, financial, legal, or technical matters. I'll be making my own paper brick soon. Now life is a dream! If coal-burning stoves are still available for sale in your part of the world, perhaps you could ring up a store that sells them and ask the salesperson. I am so grateful to that writer who ever she was. It is only a couple of weeks since Sydney was last blanketed in smoke from 2017's controlled burns to reduce the bushfire hazard in rural areas in NSW. Despite the use of soy ink, I don't even use newspapers as mulch in my vegetable garden because I like foods I grow to be organic and free from all toxins. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on March 20, 2015: Hello eugbug. Papers are often bleached with chlorinated compounds, and the inks often contain metals and other toxins, whether they are soy-based or not. A few weeks later I had another attempt, this time not bothering to shred the paper. I am using a Lehman's brick maker. I stacked the wet bricks on the floor alongside my wood burner stove (with room for air to circulate around them) and placed a couple of the new bricks on top of a baking rack resting on top of the stove while I was in the room to keep an eye on them. These don't just go up your chimney and magically disappear -- they become airborne environmental pollutants that eventually become a part of your environment. Always remember anyone can post on the MSE forums, so it can be very different from our opinion. :). I've never used the 4-brick version so I'm reluctant to recommend it. Burn paper logs one at a time! Just to thank you for such a brilliantly described and well-written article. I am confident you will be pleasantly surprised. If there is an easier way to do something, then I want to hear about it. I imagine in Alaska, newspaper bricks would be very popular, Babbyii. I do hope you walk the walk, and not just talk the talk. lol. Hendrika from Pretoria, South Africa on June 16, 2015: I like the idea of making paper bricks. And does anyone make their own logs with papers and leaves etc ... Report | See all. :). These bricks are not designed for construction. Sadly, Bernard, I think you must have put in wet paper, then put the insert in place so it sat down right at the beginning with the pegs already on the black frame. I have the brick lying sideways as I release it from the base plate. Don't panic if you need to make more during winter. You don't mention using one. That could be as simple as stacking them over a couple of planks of real wood. I've just seen your message. There's no point pushing any harder. LongTimeMother (author) from Australia on February 14, 2015: Hi Jonny. We cannot all do everything possible to mitigate the damage done to this world by our species. Two small extensions from the cover are pressed by the handles to help push the water out. :). Put on a work boot or strong shoe then position your foot directly over the cross. Make a compact pile, leave it exposed to the rain, snow, sunshine, whatever the weather for 6-9 months, and see what happens. You say you don't use newspapers with your food, but are happy to release the particulates and toxins out your chimney. The environmentalists would probably moan about this, butI think dioxin produced by burning is only an issue with white paper which has been bleached. My hands don't touch the wet newspaper for very long at all, and I wash them after brick-making sessions. And when cooking, my pots are on top of a closed metal base. Why waste all that money to become less self-sufficient ... and to watch the 'wasted' wood burn in the RFS's controlled fire anyway? Press the wet newspaper firmly in the machine. :). Remove the cover and you'll see your new brick has tiny indents in the top where the wet paper has been squashed. Question: Where can I find a paper brick maker? Don't wait for days, or even hours. Compressed paper logs burn hot, which is useful if we've been out or away long enough for the fire to die down; plus they make extremely effective fire-starters. One way will be 'smoother' and glide better than the other. It is a lot faster to fill a bucket with newspaper when you are simply scrunching it instead of shredding it. Thanks. If there's no dry wood on hand, paper logs can be encouraged to burn a long time. Newspaper for paper bricks made my way will be wet enough in less than one minute submerged in water. I experimented with a number of different approaches. I weep for what you're doing to the environment with all the dioxins you're dumping into it. The advice you give here is a game-changer. Yes, that quickly! If it works for you, I'll happily give it a mention. If you don't already have a paper log maker, you really should get one. :), Don't waste too many tears, Crrafty. Very well written, LongTimeMother...... great read, sensible and useful. I wrote a separate hub about 'How I clean my wood burning stove'. When you have enough scrunched pages to fill a bucket, pile them in and cover them with water. Thanks. :). Burn one or two bricks at a time with your vent almost closed and you'll quickly learn how effective they can be. We are entering spring time here so I let my supply of firewood and paper logs dwindle. If it is safe to use newspaper bricks in your stove, I suggest you give it a try. Wood stoves and natural gas as the most cost-effective heating between them and they 'll dry a. 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