do dried elderberries need to be cooked

You can find shrubs at your local nursery or you can propagate an elderberry bush from both from seed and from cuttings. Best regards, Hello Petar, thank you for your question! But is there a chance it was my syrup? I found my answer here as to whether I should or should not use them. I don’t put them in smoothies. What I appreciate about honey is its ability to pull both the alkaloids plus the nutrients from a plant’s cells. You know what you’re getting! xo. Honey is acidic and this acidic nature is what preserves the syrup (and elixir). Would it be alright to pick the fresh berries and have them sit in vegetable glycerin and without refrigerating? Thank you for your kind words! It was really useful and informative. I’ve been teaching and working on the new website that will be launched soon. P.S. Well , there you have it. I really want to make a syrup and not use alcohol and would like to know what process I can use to preserve as much of the nutrients as possible? Turn off the keep warm setting. s elixirs and oxymels take a month to macerate fully, you might want to get on this right away! Tightly cover the jar with a plastic lid, or with a piece of parchment paper between the metal lid and the vinegar if making an oxymel, and put it on a dish as there may be some leakage. we use this juice to make coconut ice cream sweetened with stevia or put it in our 9 berry smoothie with black currents, aronia, cranberry, raspberry, blueberry, elderberry, honeyberry, blackberry, and a few strawberry. How many times have we gotten sick and panicked? If you’re not signed up for our newsletter, I suggest going to the homepage of the website, scroll down to get the free herbal first aid eBook, and you’ll be on our email mailing list. Honey, sure, but not tincture. Please refer to the article for more information. I just picked them from the bush (dark purple) and are them one by one. I’m so glad you’re finding value here at the Cedar Mountain Herb School! Our Elderberries are rich in the flavonoid quercetin, which is believed to account for most of the therapeutic properties of the berry. Thank you for reading the article! need dried elderberries (unless you are blessed to have access to fresh elderberry If you don’t have a food dehydrator, spread them out in a sunny spot or on a cookie sheet in an oven set to low heat. https://www.cedarmountainherbs.com/newsletter-signup/. The seeds are tough and will not let in menstruum if unbroken. Thank you for your thank you! I appreciate the critical thinking involved and the conversation. I know this question is not really related to the post but I just made my winter tonic which is a combination of elderberries, ginger root, echinacea and other herbs and they have been brewing for about 4 weeks now if a half glycerine and half wishky concoction. If this happens add a cup of water at a … Yikes! While the seeds will surely pass out of our digestive system, there is always the possibility of breaking open the seeds while biting down on them. That worked really well. Freezing for short periods of time do not destroy the flavonoids. Dried elderberries in 100 degree water would just rehydrate them, but much would have already been lost. Wondering if I can add ginger,clove,cinnamon to the jar while maserating? “Honey is hygroscopic which means it draws water to it. Cook until the liquid has reduced to almost half, about 45 minutes. Thank you , Janie, Again, I’m not a fan of dried elderberries. I sure do! Did you break open the berries? I would toss the whole thing out, unquestionably, and make sure to receive a refund for full price plus shipping costs from the company. Is it bad if few “raisins” end up in the mix? That way, I’ll get all the goods! For more information on lectins and heating elderberries, please read this study. They are so small. Are you talking actual brand or alcohol proof? I am using the remainder of the elderberries to make the elixir recipe you have at the top of this page. ORAC value one of the highest in nature . This will take several washings. Doing so with both can keep the medicine viable for about 2 years. To answer your question, either one is fine, although I’ve never made fermented elderberry honey from dried berries. If I were to use dried berries, which I wouldn’t, but if I were to use them dried, I’d steep them in hot water for about 10 minutes and then let them sit for a few hours before straining. To me, I honor the plant giving itself to me by utilizing as much of the medicine as possible. If it turns out……I’ll give you my address to send me some! Counter help said Amish people swear by sambucus , and pharmacy cant keep shelves stocked. My point is that people will boil the hell out of the berries for much longer than 10 minutes. Sometimes we have to wait until the season for the part of the plant we wish to harvest is available again. We also have an apiary and would like to add honey to the mixture. In large doses it can be lethal. Looks like drying preserves the antioxidant content of elderberry pretty well. 2. With elderberries specifically, this caution is with regard to how the syrup is made. The longer the cook and the more stems, the less I’d want to use the syrup. Hello Shunta! 10 minutes in a hot water bath reduces the anthocyanins by up to 10%. Got to thinking what else can i make? Thank you for this- we are lucky to have a tree in our yard! We drink large quantities of this juice especially when we have a cold going around. Dear Suzanne, I was thinking of canning for 10 minutes but then i’d lose some of the nutrients. It is also best to freeze elderberries before trying to de-stem them even if you plan to use them right away as it makes the process much easier. Unfortunately, it appears that many of the berries may be past their prime, approximately 25% of them have slightly wrinkled skin and Look more like raisins. Scoring the elderberries, I mean. Thank you. All this to say, sure, dried elderberries cooked into syrup may still be effective against influenza viruses, however, if processed lightly, the effect would be greater. Hi Suzanne, If they can be stored in the fridge prior to use, how long can they be kept. Hope this answers your question to your satisfaction! Hello Stephanie! Additionally, there are other components in the berries that are vulnerable. They do not need to be cooked to be enjoyed. Please keep giving all this wonderful information! I find both oxymel and elixir to contain much medicine and nutrition and benefit those with whom I wish to share the remedy. Thanks for signing up for the newsletter! Place the water, dried elderberries, ginger, lemon peel, cloves, and cinnamon sticks in the liner of your Instant Pot. And the second I say add medicinal mushrooms, many people will say, “Screw healthy lifestyle habits, I can just take mushrooms and that’s all I need!” Heavy sigh. She is the primary instructor at CMHS and an adjunct faculty at Bastyr University. Have you signed up to receive our monthly eNewsletter? Any response you could give would be so greatly appreciated! Stress relief, good food vs sugar and processed crap, proper sleep, less time on tech, Vitamin D3 AND time in the sun, etc, etc. You’ve posed many a good question and I encourage you to do some research beyond what a weekend herbalist may have posted on their blog. What proof alcohol was used? Much to the chagrin of my husband, our old house’s plumbing has not been the same since. I suggest taking some herb classes, either from me (CHMS) or another knowledgeable herbalist before diving in on medicine making. 3. Speak to me like I’m ten lol. I also have way more blackberries than I can handle this year. The berries also must be properly dried and separated from the leaves and stems or they can cause digestive problems. I let the elderberries steep for 30 minutes, and swirled the pan every so often. How to make syrup from sambucus nigra berries and honey and can sambucus ebulus berries be used to make syrup? Can I treat the berries as I would when infusing other types of herbs in oils, glycerin or alcohol? I love the sound of the coconut ice cream!!! I’ve been eating raw blue elderberries for years and am alive to tell the tale without a single issue. They are tart and astringent and offer little complexity. I’m assuming I could thaw and use following your recipes, however please advise if that won’t work. that separates seeds and skins, while pure juice comes out. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Would it still work? And then I wanted to see what I could make with them and saw that they may be poisonous. You don’t have to have a medicinal need to enjoy the many culinary uses of elderberries. RAW AND DRIED ELDERBERRIES CAN CAUSE SEVERE CYANIDE POISONING...SEVERE SICKNESS, NAUSEA, VOMITING, DIARRHEA, FAST HEARTBEAT, STUPOR, and DEATH. I have long believed in the immune support of elderberries. The edible quality of elderberries varies by species, so consult with local experts for recommendations on which elderberries are best for forage-gathering. When I aggressively chinois-ed the daylights out of my elderberries yesterday — before reading this — did I also unleash the poison from the seeds into the juice? Hello Gordon! There is much controversy concerning the lectins in elderberries. Thanks for the beautiful and thorough information. Your recipe sounds super tasty AND medicinal all at the same time! I am addressing only the berries in this article. I will freeze the elderberries for up to 2 months. It’s an important one! You’ll get early information about what and when we will be teaching this winter. Glycerin is a champ at extracting tannins and other water soluble constituents, however, it is very weak at best at extracting most alkaloids and other constituents. Fresh elderberries in honey become as thin as a syrup and so medicinal! Is it harmful to consume if it has been fermenting? There is a story that is copied and pasted profusely about a group of people who apparently drank copious amounts of elderberry juice and were poisoned. Oh the goo! Consider these following elderberry products of mine. It’s when we eat them when they’ve been broken open via machines or pounding that we get into trouble. I’ll email you my address, thank you very much! I always remove the green elderberries before processing the ripe ones for safety. Place the stems between the tines of the fork and pull. Other forms of extracting the amazing with Alcohol or vinager magically only takes the good stuff and leaves behind all the bad stuff. Signs of mold, no bueno. Check to make sure you aren’t getting seeds through. I picked out for so long all red berries and stems but as they continued to thaw the juices were making them all look black!!! It appears that lectins were the culprit, as “Arterial blood gases were normal for all eight, as were serum cyanide levels”. My whole point is – know the constituents and their requirements for optimum extraction and preservation. I used to go to a barter faire in Tonasket, Washington a few decades ago, when it really was a barter faire. They did a CT scan, blood work, urine test. but that the seeds are also contained in a small sac that’s not meant to be broken? I’m curious : how long do you think fresh elderberries will last at room temp? Fiber, fructose/glucose/sucrose/levulose, iron, zinc. Yep, out the exit shoot, intact. Very grateful! I am curious how much honey you put in your jars? https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/collections/elderberry-recipes Hello Margarert! I appreciate that you asked on the comments section. Thank you so very much for all of the information that you have shared in this article as well as in the comment section. Can I use apple cider vinegar with the mother in it? . You must cook them first or make an elderberry tincture.) It raises a few questions and thoughts. No bueno. If you broke the skins and are seeing the greenish cast on the berries, that could be the mucilage that protectively surrounds the seeds. Note also that cooking is not just important for making elderberries tasty, it neutralizes any poison contained in the seeds. I prefer to always process directly after harvesting, however. Yes, there is “goo” around each seed. That’s just me, though. We only harvest the ripe berries. You can buy this at the store but it will cost a small fortune with the average price being $18.00 for just 8oz!!! The next day I ended up in ER. ), 9 pounds is too much to have on hand. I would say go ahead and use the dried berries, but simmer for a short amount of time. It depends on how long ago they had been picked, the quality of the drying, and how long they sat around the warehouse before they were purchased. I’m curious to know why you’re using pure grain alcohol. Incidentally, as I replied in a comment earlier, the skins have their own medicine and straining them out means lost medicine. You can easily juice the berries and freeze the juice for later, or freeze the berries themselves. Better not to risk it! I make a sour cherry elixir as well – it’s packed full of Vitamin C. Thanks for the reminder; I’m going to go find it on my shelves and take some right now. I tell them, “Do you want to be known for making half assed medicine or quality medicine that really gets the job done?” Personally, I’d pick only the viable berries and leave the others to drop or be food for a bird or other animal. There are as many opinions about elderberries as there are people who copy and paste. Please feel free to do your research on this, and provide a book that is well written with valid info. Does freezing fresh elderberries destroy the flavonoids like heating does? It sounds like your berries were on the cusp of being ready and I understand not wanting to lose the crop. Are these parts making the berry product less healthful? Like, this is so above my head. Have you read all the comments? Thank you!! What about worms in elderberry in the past on my a couple didn’t bother me this year as many as berries totally grossed me out so much I threw out whole batch. Meaning, soaking the berries isn’t going to make them fresh again. All tests came out negative. If so, how long? Is that possible? I love that you have elder trees for the bees! Drying and heat do destroy many, but not all, of the bioflavonoids. Cinnamomun verum is the cinnamon you want to use. 2. It’s unfortunate that your remedy may be tainted with salmonella. I want to keep my medicines as simple as possible. So….if it accidentally ferments in 100 proof vodka, is it no longer viable? Thank you, Carie, for your question! Studies show that organically grown food contain more polyphenols than non- organic food. If you’re looking for minerals, they (some) would be retained, for the most part. Thanks for all of your info! Thank you for your question! So many questions to ask before believing a story, in my never humble opinion. Sure JJ! I took a mental health day yesterday from all media including social media, emails, tv, and radio. You may add them to cereals or salads and in baking, for example. The seeds are NOT broken open, but I do put them in the menstruum with the rest of the berry matter as the seeds have a nutritious gel that encompasses the seeds. Not doing that can result in poor results/actions. xoxo. When you say food processor are you saying. But, like most berries, they do not last long in the refrigerator or on the counter. If public, you could try a couple tablespoons of lye down the pipe, although you did say you used liquid plumber. If they have been compromised, I wouldn’t use the syrup. When I did make dried plant tinctures years ago, I used 1 part plant material to 3 parts alcohol. They were all fine. I filled a half gallon bottle 2/3’s with berries then top off the bottle with organic vodka. It’s the seeds that should not be eaten. All that being said, I’m not a doctor and can’t tell you what happened. Those are the questions for which I do my best to give thoughtful and well researched answers. WOuld freeze dried berries be a good choice for protecting the antioxidant content? Sure! 9 pounds of elderberries is a massive amount and will make gallons of remedies. You say how much to fill it with the elderberries and the apple cider vinegar, but no exact amount of honey. ?… together and stir. There are many ways to make herbal medicine. Maybe not quite as potent as fully ripe berries? The micro and macro nutrients such as sugars and minerals are still viable. I don’t know how you process your other herbs into oils, glycerin, or alcohol, so without more info, I can’t effectively speak to that. Here’s an herbal tidbit from the article I’ll write soon: One of the coolest application for rose hips that I know of is how it strengthens the membranes of our vein, arteries, and capillaries, and promotes good circulation to our extremities! I often cook elderberries down into a syrup with turmeric, ginger and honey and add them to fizzy water for a mocktail. Once you have your berries ready to use, there are so many things you can do with them! 2 cups of River Hills Harvest freeze-dried Sambucus Canadensis elderberries. 2. However, you can make them into something enjoyable if you prepare them properly. Except I’m 27. Could have been a bug or something else most definitely. No, I do not. Oh the goo. I’ve not gathered plants before, because they just weren’t ready and didn’t have that product or remedy that year. The berries will spend less time “cooking” but at a higher heat than stovetop. I strain out the seeds after I have cooked them. I gently heat the honey in the strained dried plant decoction (check out my Plant Medicine Made Easy for instructions on decoctions) 2:1. Elderberries contain valerianic acid which is antispasmodic. I really dont want to throw out so many good berries so much time and love, and good honey etc. How full was the jar with the elderberries? Although, even Sambucus nigra must be fully ripe. Hello Yurika! Reading through, I’m seeing that you took days to pick through the berries, you boiled the syrup, then simmered it. From my perspective, if there are green berries on a bunch of elderberries, then I would suggest that the “ripe” ones may not be fully ripe and need a few extra days to become fully medicinal. The native dried elderberries chew like little berry kernels about the size of peppercorns. Sadness to lose so many! It’s kind of a “we’ll take what we can get” scenario. Is that good medicinally, or should I just chuck the he extra blackberries in the freezer and enjoy them in the dead of winter? I’ve read the article and read through the comments and am so intrigued about using fresh elderberries instead of dried. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and life-long learning. Raw Elderberry Dangers. Tartaric acid, which, with malic acid, has an alkalizing and cleansing effect in the body. It takes a quantity of elderberry seeds to be toxic in a person. Given the choice, I would pick……neither. Of course they require much less volume dosage than adults. Think about this: plants need protection from predators. Xo Hi again! We do not want to break the seeds, as they contain chemicals that are harmful. The stems rise to the surface and can easily be poured off. What should I do if I do not have access to fresh elder berries? Thanks for reaching out, I appreciate your story and wanting my thoughts. These emails from readers promoted a different recipe that does not cook the berries first. Seems like a ton of opinions and tons of Old Wives tales. Normally, vinegar is 5-6% acetic acid, so 3.5-4.0 may not be enough to pull out and preserve what you’re looking for. Let’s look into the antioxidants in elderberries. Fill a jar 1/2 of the way up the jar with fresh squished berries. 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